Henry Rollins is best known as the frontman for the hardcore punk band Black Flag and later for his solo project the Rollins Band. He performs regularly as a spoken word artist and a comedian, and has written and published books of prose and poetry. Rollins is a radio and TV personality, actor, and voice-over artist. He’s done several USO tours to Iraq since the war began.

I spoke with Rollins about his USO tours, punk rock, the newest season of his television show, and the art of storytelling. The full audio is at MOTHER JONES.